So if you sublet while you’re gone, what is a reasonable amount to charge? I mean when you sublet a furnished apartment, you factor in the fact that they are renting your belongings too.
I mean that guy charged too much, but ultimately why does the state always have to get involved? One person made an offer, the other one accepted, and they signed a contract.
If they make these vague laws, we’ll spend all the rest of our time (in that classic German way) splitting hairs over the interpretation of the law(s).
When things are gray I apply the asshole rule: don't be an asshole. Sure the new tenant is profiting from using your stuff, HOWEVER, you are also profiting from them caretaking your stuff while you're away. You don't have to move it or store it, so you owe them something too. I think in this case up to 50% would have been in the acceptable range.
The other problem here is the douchebags seem willing to exploit any moneymaking opportunity so it wouldn't surprise me if people rent several apart only to sublet at an unreasonable profit, further fuvkong Berlin property.
The thing is, the state always defines these vague laws. So people are going to have to come up with ever more details as to what constitutes a fair furnished sublet price.
And then The State tries to make prohibitive rules instead of accommodating people; there is a clear housing shortage, which in a free market economy drives up prices. If there were enough places to live, nobody would have accepted the sublet deal.
So the state doesn’t do its job and prefers to foist its incompetence in terms of new prohibitions onto the poor peasants. They had to get involved in this instead of talking about how they’re going to solve the housing problem.
We pay them tax so they give us prohibitions. They should be taking our tax dollars and figuring out how best they can serve us. (obvious example: unfuck the bureaucracy and digitalized services. In Berlin they just shrug and do nothing.) Only recently has human dignity been made slightly less violable with the addition of public toilets.
So we’re clear on where I stand with greed: I sublet my apartment for €200/mo. less than the Mietspiegel.
I'm not an expert here, but my take would be to charge the same amount you already pay. If the subtenant is covering your rent while you're gone, you're already profiting since you don't have to pay for an empty place, theoretically.
Regarding furniture, etc, I think it would be enough to just require liability insurance and a security deposit to protect yourself. You might also want to put your most valuable items in storage for extra peace of mind.
That’s generally what I did when I was subletting my old place while away for a few months.
My point is as soon as the state gets involved, it turns into this mess of how fussy do people want to get? Then disputes turn into this very long procedure that is only ever solved with lawyers.
Germany professes to be a land of laws but if you follow the money, you start to see how the system is designed for certain professions to get their cut. The only way people matter is their ability to pay tax to fund the people who administer the welfare state. “Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme”
I mean pick a topic. You can’t even do energy upgrades on your house without being funneled into a scheme that ensures that very specific companies get their cut.
The tech sector is often completely slowed down due to having a bottleneck with notaries.
The state just looks at how it can terrorize the peasants with their broken systems of compliance instead of finding ways to remove all the barriers and make the most user-friendly system possible.
Sorry, I guess I’m starting to sound like an internet lunatic now. 😬
Broadly, yes: an upstanding individual might legitimately pass along their base rental plus utilities (presumably incl. internet cost) and a very small percentage depreciation factor for the furnishings so as not to be profiteering.
OTOH… the figure quoted as having been charged to the subtenant in the case under discussion is not wholly out of line with current unfurnished rents in that Bezirk for the size of the apartment. By way of comparison, furnished flats seem to be rented out at 20 € - 30 €+ per square meter, depending on Kiez and condition.
Kai Wegner could get 300 firemen on ice chipping duty in critical spots and instantly win back credibility after tennisgate.
So if you sublet while you’re gone, what is a reasonable amount to charge? I mean when you sublet a furnished apartment, you factor in the fact that they are renting your belongings too.
I mean that guy charged too much, but ultimately why does the state always have to get involved? One person made an offer, the other one accepted, and they signed a contract.
If they make these vague laws, we’ll spend all the rest of our time (in that classic German way) splitting hairs over the interpretation of the law(s).
When things are gray I apply the asshole rule: don't be an asshole. Sure the new tenant is profiting from using your stuff, HOWEVER, you are also profiting from them caretaking your stuff while you're away. You don't have to move it or store it, so you owe them something too. I think in this case up to 50% would have been in the acceptable range.
The other problem here is the douchebags seem willing to exploit any moneymaking opportunity so it wouldn't surprise me if people rent several apart only to sublet at an unreasonable profit, further fuvkong Berlin property.
The thing is, the state always defines these vague laws. So people are going to have to come up with ever more details as to what constitutes a fair furnished sublet price.
And then The State tries to make prohibitive rules instead of accommodating people; there is a clear housing shortage, which in a free market economy drives up prices. If there were enough places to live, nobody would have accepted the sublet deal.
So the state doesn’t do its job and prefers to foist its incompetence in terms of new prohibitions onto the poor peasants. They had to get involved in this instead of talking about how they’re going to solve the housing problem.
We pay them tax so they give us prohibitions. They should be taking our tax dollars and figuring out how best they can serve us. (obvious example: unfuck the bureaucracy and digitalized services. In Berlin they just shrug and do nothing.) Only recently has human dignity been made slightly less violable with the addition of public toilets.
So we’re clear on where I stand with greed: I sublet my apartment for €200/mo. less than the Mietspiegel.
I'm not an expert here, but my take would be to charge the same amount you already pay. If the subtenant is covering your rent while you're gone, you're already profiting since you don't have to pay for an empty place, theoretically.
Regarding furniture, etc, I think it would be enough to just require liability insurance and a security deposit to protect yourself. You might also want to put your most valuable items in storage for extra peace of mind.
That’s generally what I did when I was subletting my old place while away for a few months.
My point is as soon as the state gets involved, it turns into this mess of how fussy do people want to get? Then disputes turn into this very long procedure that is only ever solved with lawyers.
Germany professes to be a land of laws but if you follow the money, you start to see how the system is designed for certain professions to get their cut. The only way people matter is their ability to pay tax to fund the people who administer the welfare state. “Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahme”
I mean pick a topic. You can’t even do energy upgrades on your house without being funneled into a scheme that ensures that very specific companies get their cut.
The tech sector is often completely slowed down due to having a bottleneck with notaries.
The state just looks at how it can terrorize the peasants with their broken systems of compliance instead of finding ways to remove all the barriers and make the most user-friendly system possible.
Sorry, I guess I’m starting to sound like an internet lunatic now. 😬
Broadly, yes: an upstanding individual might legitimately pass along their base rental plus utilities (presumably incl. internet cost) and a very small percentage depreciation factor for the furnishings so as not to be profiteering.
OTOH… the figure quoted as having been charged to the subtenant in the case under discussion is not wholly out of line with current unfurnished rents in that Bezirk for the size of the apartment. By way of comparison, furnished flats seem to be rented out at 20 € - 30 €+ per square meter, depending on Kiez and condition.