> The approximatley 131,440 dogs in Berlin poop on our city 252,000 times a day, leaving an estimated 75 million tonnes of excrement, according to my own calculations using figures from RBB24.
I don't think the math checks out here. One ton is 1000 kg, assuming the 75M tonnes is an yearly figure, that would mean that each time a dog poop, it would poop in average 8kg . Looking at the linked RBB24 article, it mentions between 55 and 60 tonnes per day, which would amount to a bit under 22 thousand tonnes per year and a more realistic 240 grams of poop per poopage.
Is there any data on the number of freeloaders on the transport to justify 400million - seriously are we not yet heading to a society that public transport becomes free - we already pay for it - twice!
$400 million for turnstiles is a profound underestimate.
I can't think of anything more stupid and useless. It would be a huge inconvenience--turnstiles slow down the movement of people going into and coming out of stations. They make it difficult if you have a bike, or luggage or a baby stroller. They make it particularly difficult if you are disabled.
To say that the infrastructure of these stations is not designed for a turnstiles is an understatement. Many exits/entrances would have to be closed or substantially changed for turnstiles.
The easy way of making a station barrier-free is to put an elevator right on the middle of the platform. Many stations already have this. Easy....but how do you then barrier off the lift from the platform with turnstiles? How can that be done in a way that is easy for the disabled? That's very hard.
The irony of all this is something you experience in the Paris Métro where there are turnstiles but then they also have ticket controllers as well. Why have both? Well I'm told because it's easy to get around the turnstiles and or the they are often broken and people get around them...whatever the reason is, if you're going to have ticket controllers you could get rid of the bloody turnstiles.
When I was in Amsterdam and on their metro and train network I looked at the design of the turnstiles with its regular checking in and checking out and concluded that the whole functional design of that system had one and only one beneficiary: the company that manufactured the turnstiles. I think that the aggressive checking-in/checking-out was happening because that system was designed so that every time that occurred it was a billable event for the turnstile company.
That system only sold digital tickets (paper tickets with a digital chip inside) even if it was a one-time use ticket. Those stupid tickets are needlessly complicated and expensive when it could just be done with a QR code. This system was designed by the turnstile company for more revenue.
But who can blame the turnstile company? They see a massive system in Europe without turnstiles, a contract worth at least a half billion euros, they are probably camping outside of Rotes Rathaus in desperation for this contract. "Just tell them it's for their own good and they will be paying for it through an increase in the fares."
> The approximatley 131,440 dogs in Berlin poop on our city 252,000 times a day, leaving an estimated 75 million tonnes of excrement, according to my own calculations using figures from RBB24.
I don't think the math checks out here. One ton is 1000 kg, assuming the 75M tonnes is an yearly figure, that would mean that each time a dog poop, it would poop in average 8kg . Looking at the linked RBB24 article, it mentions between 55 and 60 tonnes per day, which would amount to a bit under 22 thousand tonnes per year and a more realistic 240 grams of poop per poopage.
Yeah, I don't know what I was smoking I even literally did the math with an average of 340 grams and STILL wrote it wrong. Laugh emoji.
One of Andrew's hyperbolic jokes
Came here to say this LOL
Is there any data on the number of freeloaders on the transport to justify 400million - seriously are we not yet heading to a society that public transport becomes free - we already pay for it - twice!
$400 million for turnstiles is a profound underestimate.
I can't think of anything more stupid and useless. It would be a huge inconvenience--turnstiles slow down the movement of people going into and coming out of stations. They make it difficult if you have a bike, or luggage or a baby stroller. They make it particularly difficult if you are disabled.
To say that the infrastructure of these stations is not designed for a turnstiles is an understatement. Many exits/entrances would have to be closed or substantially changed for turnstiles.
The easy way of making a station barrier-free is to put an elevator right on the middle of the platform. Many stations already have this. Easy....but how do you then barrier off the lift from the platform with turnstiles? How can that be done in a way that is easy for the disabled? That's very hard.
The irony of all this is something you experience in the Paris Métro where there are turnstiles but then they also have ticket controllers as well. Why have both? Well I'm told because it's easy to get around the turnstiles and or the they are often broken and people get around them...whatever the reason is, if you're going to have ticket controllers you could get rid of the bloody turnstiles.
When I was in Amsterdam and on their metro and train network I looked at the design of the turnstiles with its regular checking in and checking out and concluded that the whole functional design of that system had one and only one beneficiary: the company that manufactured the turnstiles. I think that the aggressive checking-in/checking-out was happening because that system was designed so that every time that occurred it was a billable event for the turnstile company.
That system only sold digital tickets (paper tickets with a digital chip inside) even if it was a one-time use ticket. Those stupid tickets are needlessly complicated and expensive when it could just be done with a QR code. This system was designed by the turnstile company for more revenue.
But who can blame the turnstile company? They see a massive system in Europe without turnstiles, a contract worth at least a half billion euros, they are probably camping outside of Rotes Rathaus in desperation for this contract. "Just tell them it's for their own good and they will be paying for it through an increase in the fares."
This solves no problem at all.